Welcome to Doughnut Talks

Connecting dots. Talks worth having

Conversations to deepen our understanding, accelerate our learning and ignite action towards a doughnut economy.


We are Rieta Aliredjo and Stephan Verveen. Two former Accenture Netherlands colleagues who became friends while singing on stage in the company band. Today we’re independent professionals, who connect on scalable learning towards a regenerative and distributive economy, inspired by the book Doughnut Economics. With the Doughnut Talks podcast we facilitate our own learning journey and we hope to bring value to yours. Let us know and come jam with us!

After the massive success (hahahhihihoho) of our first series in Dutch, we have decided for the next series to summarize and comment on each of the chapters of the Doughnut Economics book in Dunglish. In all honesty, it was not really a decision, it’s just something we could not escape. Doughnut economics has a planetary scope, so we need to connect globally. Instead of speaking Dutch we’ll give our best Dunglish a try. We will flipflop between attempts at US, UK, possibly Ozzy or Asian accents. In any case it will not sound anything like proper English, so Dunglish it is.

Back in 2004: Cover of Tonight by David Bowie and Tina Turner.

Inspired by

The big inspiration obviously is the book Doughnut Economics by Kate Raworth. Our main takeaways from the book are:

  • Everyone is an economist and economy in essence is the art of good housekeeping. And our house is planet Earth!
  • Our goal is to strive to get in the safe and just space of the doughnut: above the social foundation (the inner ring) and below the ecological ceiling (the outer ring). 
  • By evaluating how we look at ourselves and the systems we live in.
  • And rethink how we produce and distribute. How can we be regenerative and distributive by design? 
  • And finally to keep exploring, experimenting and learning to actually get into the doughnut. 
Doughnut Talks does not exclusively talk about the book. We welcome other perspectives and critical notes. However we feel the doughnut is a good metaphor to use as a guide for further exploration of the embedded economy and the role of the state, businesses, households and the commons.  

Wishing for

For us, it’s already a win. Working on the first series in Dutch we experienced how much these talks helped us deepen our understanding, facilitate our learning, feed our curiosity and motivate us to do more. We are positive starting these type of conversations could have the same effect for you! By documenting our process we hope to bring you value and in some way facilitate your learning journey too. When we help, support and connect with each other we can truly accelerate the transition to a doughnut economy.